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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:07:00 -
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I was personally surprised to the extent of this "scam". I use "scam" as I am at a loss for other words, cruelty, humiliation, exploitation, bullying, torture or just basic inhumanity.
I realise CCP pride themselves in creating the sandbox for us all to play in, but sometimes intervention is needed. CCP are the only people who can help protect against this cyber bullying in the universe which they created.
I only just learned about this bonus room thing, and it has honestly made me think twice about wanting to be associated with a game which allows and even takes pride in promoting this kind of behaviour.
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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:21:00 -
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I would like to remind and just point out to CCP that where in your TOS/EULA you state that any ingame items are the property of CCP games that you do in fact have the power to intervene in these circumstances. The whole bargaining chip of the exploitation and humiliation is ISK and or game assets which are your property.
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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
68
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Posted - 2014.03.26 00:46:00 -
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CCP can check my active subscriptions just to see this is not a empty threat or someone just splurging on the forums, I will NOT be subscribing more than 2 of my 11 accounts until action on this matter is taken.
Each month that's 9 subscriptions lost in protest
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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:46:00 -
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I have already shot down any interest in the game from my partner, and now my uncle as I fear they are not as thick skinned as required to play this "game?"
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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.26 09:59:00 -
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EULA:
You may not submit any content to any chat room or other public forum within the Game that is harassing, abusive, threatening, harmful, obscene, libelous or defamatory, encourages conduct that could constitute a criminal offense or give rise to civil liabilities, or is unlawful in any other way, including without limitation the submission of content that infringes on a third-partyGÇÖs intellectual property rights.
I believe this "bonus room" breaks this section of the EULA as clearly in the recordings the bonus room interrogators are using eve items as leverage. Which this is recorded and then put in a public blog and forums which directly breaks the above EULA.
CCP have to take action as not doing so sends a very bad message to not only its players but possible future players as well.
I have already had 2 RL friends come up to me today and start a conversation on this matter shocked and horrified that: 1) I play the game. 2) That as far as they can tell CCP promote this kind of behaviour.
Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it... |
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:14:00 -
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Just ban the narcissistic psychopath and be done with it. The only reason he is showing any kind of rational reasoning is because he has realised this might impact on him. Typical psychopathic behaviour
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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:23:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:
Typical argument for someone who has no desire to engage in an adult conversation. I don't think you know what a psychopath is. I am most certainly not one.
Feel free to go and educate yourself via google or any other search engine. There is a spectrum and you have scored very highly indeed.
If you care to go back through the thread I have posted informatively and constructively I just will not be dragged into a discussion with somebody who is beyond reasoning. The only action which will have any impact could possibly come from CCP and I hope it does.
Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it... |
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:32:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:As a joke, I have taken these internet tests with some guys at bu/mb/etc and I score rather low.
Actually if you score really low it can be a indicator of being very high on the spectrum. The whole thing about real psychopaths is they cannot be accurately tested as they see through the tests and calculate the appropriate answers to give in each situation. Making them score very low indeed when really they are topping the charts. Some tests scoring really low actually requires further testing 1 on 1 with a professional. its a very complex condition.
There was a very interesting documentary on this a while ago which I did indeed watch.
Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it... |
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.26 11:48:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:Contrary to the opinion of some here, yes I'm rather gentle and kind. I have a problem in that I can't say no to friends who ask for help. It wasn't that long ago I was a noob wondering how I would make isk in this new, complex game. heh
I have seen you post many times in the past contradictory to this statement of being gentle and kind.
I can claim to be 7ft 9 blue and live on the moon does not make it accurate or true
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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:55:00 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:I think you have both just accurately described reality TV
The contestants are informed and consent to their actions being recorded and then distributed into the media/public domain. As far as im aware bonus room makes no attempt to let the victim know they are being recorded at the start. Which infact breaks laws in many country's
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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:02:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Literally the first thing said in the recording is that it is being recorded.
I must of missed that during buffering my bad
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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:43:00 -
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It would be interesting to see if any of the victims are American, as I am aware of some cases in the past of children sueing their parents for getting divorced as it causes them emotional distress.
This bonus room clearly exploits people and causes emotional distress. Would be interesting to see this go to court.
Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it... |
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:48:00 -
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Batelle wrote:
What lynch mob? Aside from a few hundred people in this thread, no one seems to care from what I can tell.
The lack of people commenting, at the moment atleast, is because not everybody knows yet. If this hits RL news, like the battle in B-R there will be a ungodly amount of hate, hassle and bad press for CCP
Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it... |
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:59:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:So I just went to the library.
A woman shows up, sits next to me, passes out and is snoring really loud.
This is obviously inappropriate behavior, she obviously singled me out, she's obviously done this to other people before, and it's making me crazy.
Should I walk away, and tell one of the librarians, or is it acceptable to go into a ugly racist rant and threaten to gut her?
What does Rippard Teg and his minions think?
Clearly you must steal her wallet, phone or anything she holds dear, then proceed to wake her up and refuse to return the said goods unless she dances, sings, reads every book in the library or strips? Record the entire thing and put it on as much social media as possible.
Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it... |
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
98
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Posted - 2014.03.26 23:24:00 -
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Navi Annages wrote:
It's kinda like holding a deck of cards right? Life threats vs ban? Which looks worse? Maybe a judge would decide wisely what happens to racist vulgar individuals.
Somewhere along the lines you have blurred the lines between the victim and predator. E1 and his accomplices set out to cause emotional harm to another human being - premeditated if you will. They used calculated manipulation and tactics to accomplish this.
After what was is 2 hours, the victim snapped and lashed out in a emotional manner. I don't agree with what was said but at the end of the day it was E1 who woke up that morning with the intention to cause harm (emotional) to another human being, and are in the wrong. Who hasn't said something they didn't really mean in the height of a argument?
If you beat an animal until it defended itself and bit you, who is in the wrong?
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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:48:00 -
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Danalee wrote:You know you are losing when someone called 'Space Juden' needs to add the same bs others have been vommiting up 24/7 since the thread started. NOT FORCED. ASKED. KINDLY FOR THAT MATTER. D. 
Try an stay on topic here and not try to derail the thread into a mud slinging match. I realise this is a tactic used widely on the forums to get threads locked and cover stuff up but for pages you have been attempting this..... just stop
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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2014.03.27 11:51:00 -
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GÇÿdeindividuationGÇÖ within crowds causes people to lose their identities and consequently behave in inevitably anti-social ways. Over thirty years of empirical work from the social identity tradition (for a review see Reicher, Spears, & Haslam, 2010) has discredited these claims. This research has shown that rather than a loss of identity within crowds, there is ashift from personal to social levels of identification. Instead of acting in terms of the norms and behavioural limits of oneGÇÖs personal identity, within a psychological crowd one therefore acts in coherence with the norms of oneGÇÖs salient collective identity. These norms will differ depending upon which social identity is salient at any given time, e.g. as a resident of a local community, supporter of a sports team, or as a member of an audience at a television recording. Crowd behaviour is therefore rooted in social context, such that individuals may even act more pro-socially in a crowd than they would do alone.
Stumbled upon this when I remembered a Darren Brown experiment "The mask". What is worrying in this paragraph taken from a psychological response is it states that often in deindividuation people act the way they are socially expected to.
Now in a game like eve where CCP sell and even pride themselves on making a lawless, ruthless environment where being devious, deceitful and just plain nasty offers instant gratification and rewards. How do we expect many people to act? Eventually something will cross the line and CCP will have to act and make a stance. Personally I think this is the instance where this is needed before any real harm comes to anyone because of this game.
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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
103
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:04:00 -
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lollerwaffle wrote:Why is CCP responsible for the actions of an individual who does another individual harm over a game? Does said individual not have any control over their emotions and can they not tell the difference between a video game and real life?
Many reasons actually. The first being that where their very own TOS/EULA state that any game items are the property of CCP games. This instantly gives them a say over this incident where it is ingame items being used as leverage to humiliate and torture the victim. Secondly the fact that the predator is using eve online - once again property of CCP games to find victims and kick start his sick perverted hobby.
If I loan somebody my car and they run somebody over, am I not partially to blame or even involved as it was my car?
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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
105
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:17:00 -
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danalee please use a forum alt to post with you are making me ashamed to be in razor
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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
108
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Posted - 2014.03.28 10:24:00 -
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Disappointed CCP still have not taken any action on this - I am assuming as E1 is still posting nothing has or will be done. Im sorry CCP but what ever "faith" I had left in you as a company after incarna has just vanished
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Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2014.03.28 11:04:00 -
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Alp Khan wrote:
How convenient this enlightenment coincided with E1 announcing for CSM, and not a moment in the entire year before.
You are assuming that Erotica 1 would have been able to release his name. From what I remember, when he tried to run before, he gave up just before releasing his name. I'm wondering why?[/quote]
I'd assume he only does it as a "super troll" a middle finger to eve, the community and its rules trying to prove he is above all of them.
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